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July 26, 2016

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Schnupp

German aircraft have been flying over Syria - apparently carrying out NATO reconnaissance missions - for months, while thousands of German soldiers have carried out combat missions in Afghanistan. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/12159530/German-aircraft-in-Syria-regularly-shadowed-by-Russia.html http://www.stripes.com/ready-to-fight-german-soldiers-afghan-mission-shifts-from-reconstruction-and-training-to-engaging-enemy-1.165410

Will Davidson

Wow! Once a an Anarchist, now a UKIP supporter with no problem with capitalism, bigotry and the far-right who follows Geert Wilders on Twitter- you really are a bawbag of the highest order Paul.

Dr Paul Stott

Thanks Will - any chance of addressing any of the points in the article?

If you can.

Will Davidson

You haven't made a proper point- you've just taken someone's meme from twitter and claimed that thats what the entire Left believes, which is not the case. If you ask me the problem is a fundamentalist interpretation of Islam on the one hand and western imperialism on the other, particularly the Iraq War, out which we now have Islamic State. There simply would be nowhere near the Jihadis we have now without the Iraq War, but western imperialist intervention in general. Anyway, I have better things to do with my time than contribute to Kippers' blog.

Dr Paul Stott

Indeed so pressed for time have you been, you have managed to post five comments on my blog in one morning.

Will Davidson

I'd rather be a Trot or a Social Democrat than a Ukipper/torie- atleast they actually examine the class system and austerity, things seriously lacking on this blog because you either don't care about them or have your head so firmly stuck up your arse you think UKIP is the solution. I know men of a certain age can go rather strange, but fucking hell! UKIP! Boris Johnson! Geert Wilders! What the fuck has happened to you?

Dr Paul Stott

Will - You've suddenly found the time to comment again.

I think UKIP have been correct on some of the big issues in recent years. They were right on the Euro, the EU and at least grasped that immigration can be bad news as well as good news. I have done enough work in shitty jobs, and had enough housing problems in my life to know that controlling immigration is a better bet in addressing low pay and the housing crisis, than waiting for socialist revolution.

But what do I know, I'm just a man of a certain age who has gone rather strange.

Will Davidson

Neo-liberalism is the problem, capitalism is the problem- not immigration. Immigration brings problems but also positives, you focus on the problems, but the answer is not more Thatcherite nonsense. You've clearly no problem with the disgusting bigotry expressed by UKIP then, or their nazi-like propaganda- fucking hell!

Will Davidson

I've done enough shitty jobs and had enough housing problems in my life to know whose to fucking blame and that scapegoating immigrants and the unemployed and single-parents won't help me- fucking hell- do I have to explain the basics to you?

Will Davidson

Thats the reality of UKIP's politics Paul, they are no different than the fucking tories, if not worse as they tend to be further to the right.

Dr Paul Stott

Will - I'm sure our conversation will shortly be proved academic, as your revolution against neo-liberalism will arrive.

I am sure there are racists in UKIP (although they tend to get booted out) as there are in all parties. There is though only one major political party in Britain which holds segregated public meetings, and has contained members who publicly praise Hitler. The Labour party.

As I am sure you will be going on pro-Labour blogs to denounce this bigotry, do check out details online of the segregated meetings Tom Watson held at the last election, or Jim McMahon in the recent Oldham by-election. On Labour officials praising Hitler, consider Cllr Aysegul Gurbuz and the former Mayor of Bradford Khadim Hussain.

Then there's Kensington Cllr Beinazir Lasharie, who thinks the Jews are behind ISIS. I could go, but I don't want to detain you.

Will Davidson

Seriously, I'm an anarchist but I'd rather vote for a Corbyn lead Labour government than fucking UKIP. I would rather die than do that.

Will Davidson

So scapegoating immigrants, the unemployed, the disabled and single-parents is the answer for you, as is neo-liberalism. Yep, wasting my my time.

Will Davidson

You did see the nazi UKIP election poster, right?

Will Davidson

This is what the photographer who took that photo thinks https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/jun/22/jeff-mitchells-best-shot-the-column-of-marching-refugees-used-in-ukips-brexit-campaign

Will Davidson

And I don't remember UKIP ever expelling Nigel Farage for his racist views on Romanians, or his misogynist views on women or indeed Roger Helmer, for his disgusting homophobia.

Will Davidson

And as for UKIP'S views on feminists and how patriarchal they no doubt are- jesus! You do realise they are the MRA type don't you, and how fucked -up and ridiculous they are?! Or are you not bothered?

Will Davidson

no answers tut tut tut

don't worry I'll go away again and give some time to think about it.

Will Davidson

But before I do, all I'll add is that if the revolution isn't going to happen anytime soon, then the least we could do in the meantime is vote for a left-wing government that will get rid of foodbanks and austerity and build the vital social housing we as working class people need, and give us higher wages, get rid of the cap on benefits and the work capability assessment which is seriously harming vulnerable people and which has killed many people, and perhaps introduce universal basic income- all things that will help the battered working-class- all things UKIP are dead against.

Will Davidson

Oh and I didn't even mention Jeremy Corbyn's National Education Service, which is much needed and would be easily accessible to all who wanted to use it- do you seriously think UKIP have something similar in mind? Do you realise that cuts to housing benefit have meant an increase in homelessness, that austerity has lead to hunger? People being turnede away from foodbanks? If so, why the fuck do you think UKIP of all people, are going to resolve the problem? The fact you do just confirms for me that you are indeed rather strange Paul, off your fucking rocker perhaps. UKIP don't give a flying fuck about working-class people. C'mon Paul, you're more intelligent than that surely! UKIP are a right-wing, capitalist party that are there for the rich,run by and funded by the rich- that uses divide and rule against the working-classes' interests at every opportunity. They are not anti-austerity or anti-capitalist and therefore are part of the problem.

Will Davidson

As for racism in the Labour Party- I'm sure you will get people in Labour who say stupid things or get things wrong, and those things may be racist or come across as racist. However, UKIP is a party founded on xenophobia and racism and patriarchy and there for the interests of the ruling-class. Labour is supposed to be a party to improve the lot of the working-class and it can, unlike UKIP, help the working-class if it is lead by the left of the party.On the segregated meetings, it sounds to me like daily hail bollocks and is the sort of thing that the neo-liberal press spews out at every opportunity. If there is some truth in it, it needs looking into though.

Will Davidson

Thats me for now, especially as you are not answering my posts.

Will Davidson

One last thing- next you'll be saying Hitler was a Socialist Paul tut tut his politics are closer to UKIP's and therefore yours. Seriously, thats how batshit you are coming across.

Dr Rastus

I love the way Corbynistas and antifa style anarchists hold dear to their hearts that Hitler was not a socialist. Wonder why he had the words Socialist and Workers in the title of his party? Perhaps he should have called his party the Nationalist racist, xenophobic toffs and rich against the poor party.
By the way there are lots of photos published of segregated Labour Party meetings and many embarrassing responses to questions about them posed by BBC presenters. Perhaps it is all a deception by the neo liberal Jews ( sorry Zionists)

Will Davidson

Hitler was a Fascist who appropriated left-wing things, not a Socialist- not hard to work out. As I already stated, if there is some truth that segregated meetings have occurred then something should be done but personally I don't think it's the end of the world- I mean, even regarding muslims and other middle-eastern and African immigrants, it's not one of the big issues- is it worse than FGM for example? No. Other things I'm more concerned about are the increase in homlessness, hunger and poverty and insecurity suffered by the working-class in this country.

Will Davidson

Going back to Hitler, I mean are you saying that the working class in germany under the Nazis owned and controlled the means of production and distribution? Thats what Socialism is and it didn't happen in Nazi Germany, for obvious reasons- Fascism is a ruling-class ideology.

Dr Rastus

Oh dear, how sad to see the left in such a state of decline, running to defend jihadists, an anarchist supporting a socialist such as Corbyn. And the ignorance about Hitler and the Nazis. True the workers under the Nazis never owned and controlled the means of production and distribution Now name a socialist country where that happened? Socialism for the Nazis and the Soviets meant a powerful state apparatus. In Hitler's case it opposed capitalism - run by Jewish bankers so he said - but like every socialist country the party/state was paramount. And by the way, your Muslims fought on Hitlers side - they did not like Jews. And 80,000 fought for Franco who was a genuine fascist. As for segregated meetings, easy to spot them. I just find it amusing that Labour allow them, just as they, and the Tories, have tolerated FGM . But events like that ought to bother anyone with anarchist leanings. Anarchists for Corbyn. Wow, not even the dudes in Class War have taken that leap.

Will Davidson

My Muslims? What are you talking about? Hitler wasn't anti-capitalist by the way- thats why he was backed by German industrialists and crushed the worker's movement, it's why initially he was popular with the capitalist powers. As I said, Hitler appropriated anti-capitalist and left-wing rhetoric and symbolism etc. As for me deciding I will probably vote for Corbyn-atleast he is anti-austerity and is infact the only anti-austerity voice in the political mainstream, he's not out to fuck over the poor (unlike all the other politicians, including those in UKIP)- I wouldn't be ashamed of voting for him.

Will Davidson

I never defended Jihadists- again- what the fuck are you talking about?

Will Davidson

And don't insult my intelligence by expecting me to believe that if Labour got voted in they would tolerate FGM- thats some conspiracy theorist sounding shit.

Dr Rastus

Will,
Very selective reply. Never mind. By the way. Labour did tolerate FGM when in power. As for Corbyn, my dog and two cats joined the party to vote for him so that Labour would never get in again. And I do not support any other party either.

Will Davidson

I have to wonder if you can actually read- I stated, more than once that if it is found to be true that there are segregated meetings then that is wrong and it should be stopped and nowhere have I defended Jihadis- where have I defended Jihadis? And It is irrelevant what the last Labour government did, this will be a new government, one very different from Brown or Blair.

Will Davidson

Islamic State don't like refugees either. they call them deserters of the arab homelands and of islam. They say they should stay in the middle east like good muslims. They also hate feminists and leftists like you guys do. well done- you have plenty in common with ISIS. But hey, not all fascists are white and from the west.

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