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Ray

Thanks Paul. Just the positive report I have been waiting for. Obviously I now wish that I had gone!

matt d.

I agree with most of your thoughts on this mate, thought it was a really good event, and made me feel positive about labeling myself an anarchist, rather than anything else...

Speaking purely for myself I sort of enjoyed the radical feminist invasion, however flawed the video with it's selective editing, and brainwashing music.

But hey who doesn't enjoy the occaisional feminist intervention?

me

the point of the feminist intervention was to demonstrate the dominance of male voices. saying that the rally had 2 women speaking out of 15 or so does not actually undermine that point. and yes the class war poster may have been designed by a woman, and there were other (less promoted) alternatives inc gay men etc, but the social context around images of women is different! plenty of women work in the mainstream media and push sexy naked images of women to sell products. its not as simple as you are maing it out to be.

why quibble with the details in this way? Is it because you can't bear to accept that they have a point? Women call out sexism in the movement and are met with jeers (a man in the audience asked 'are you going to do a dance for us?') criticisms and denials.

They didnt do the intervention for fun. they did it because it needed to be said, and they were speaking from their own experience as female anarchists. To dismiss it using whatever tiny cracks you can is dishonest, self-protecting, and anti-anarchist.

billy

i agree the film was crap but re-reading their statement a lot of it makes sense. i love the audacity of the action above all :)

Dave e

Looks like the feminists should have a quick 'word' with this TSG sergeant - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/11/g20-woman-assault-police-investigation

hilldrop crescent

the point of the intervention was to demonstrate the dominance of male voices? piffle! did the massed ranks of mcps a) shout down the feminist invasion, or b) listen to statement and watch the video without repelling boarders? what i saw was a small unrepresentative group of likely professional malcontents present a statement and film lacking in honesty, with a breathtaking disregard for the truth. i think the footage of martin wright was from the opening speech at the 28/3 anarchist rally - the speech where he called for anyone who wanted to say anything to address the throng. it's particularly reprehensible to edit out the women who spoke there, one of whom blew most of the other speakers away.

if the participants in this little stunt had participated in the conference - they'd have found that anarchist men aren't all sexist pigs, but in the main amenable to reason.

what particularly struck me about the statement is that anarchist women like voltairine de cleyre, louise michel, lucy parsons - or the great emma goldman - don't seem to have inspired their modern sisters. i don't think any of the ladies named in the statement is (or was) in fact an anarchist; i wonder why not.

the history of the anarchist movement is littered with lost opportunities, and this was yet another. the reluctance of this cabal to enter into debate with their peers was notable: not only did they refuse to take part in the conference, as their statement indicates, they showed no sign of wishing to defend their position.

what a pity.

hilldrop crescent

spent an interesting hour finding out about angela davis and mujeres libres. see i was mistaken - but i would be interested to find out from no pretence which indigenous influences they draw on.

Paul Stott

I can't help thinking we have a problem of pace following on from this conference.

I wish I had spoken up during the plenary when TW said there would be a follow up meeting at the Anarchist Bookfair (which is in late October). That's too late. I know some taking things forward meetings were held after the plenary, but people were flagging by then.

When I used to help run conferences in the rail industry, we often had similar sized events to last weeks (but on a much fatter budget!) If I had turned round to my boss and said a follow up what not occur until four months, he would have kicked me up the arse.

Waiting until October does have a whiff of parking the whole bus, rather than driving it forward?

Ed

paul - the anarchist movement operates on anarchist time, not real time!

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